• Ryan Elkins
  • Jul 24,2008
  • In: Geeky

The Dark Knight: 6 Things That Bugged Me

Everyone has been talking about how awesome The Dark Knight is - I agree - it’s very awesome. However, it’s not perfect. I was going to write about how awesome this movie is but everyone did that about 3 weeks ago before it was even out. Instead I’m going to address the few nit picky issues that it left me with as I left the theater. While I was very happy with the movie these were the little things that kept eating away at me since I saw it on Saturday. If you haven’t seen the movie yet - first off, what’s wrong with you? - second, do yourself a favor and don’t read this as I’d hate to spoil things for you.

  1. The biggest thing that bugged me is also one that most people seem to love - Two Face’s disfigured face. Yes, it’s not overly cartoonish but for me it’s just not realistic enough. Now, burns are not pretty things but his made his skin look like sandpaper - the reality is much harsher. The treatment it was given in the movie, for whatever reason, is just not very realistic. I mean, how does his eye stay in the socket? How does it not shrivel up and dry out after about 2 minutes? How can he talk without any change to his voice (or at all really) while missing half of his mouth? They did such a good job with the Joker - I never felt bothered by the fact that this was a guy running around in clown makeup - but Two Face’s face just brought me out of my suspension of disbelief.
  2. Gravel voiced Batman. It’s been said enough I don’t think anything more needs to be said. This has bugged me since Batman Begins. I guess people were more willing to live with it when he at least wasn’t talking much.
  3. Plot holes. After Batman saves Rachel from falling by jumping out the window to save her and then everyone seems to forget that the Joker was left in Bruce Wayne’s penthouse with a lot of guests. The movie just goes on to something else. Uhh… OK. Also, in Batman Begins he gets hurt pretty bad from falling out the window after being attacked by Scarecrow - now he falls something like 10x farther and just shakes it off? Armor or not that fall still should have killed them both. Just because he was under her doesn’t dramatically diminish the impact she would have taken from that fall.
  4. The vote. That ferry had like 4 decks above the main deck and who knows how much room below that. I don’t really see how they managed to get everyone to vote and do it in a timely manner. We can’t even run our country’s elections that smoothly and we don’t have the possibility of being blown up at any minute or within the next 15 to panic us.
  5. Sonar Vision. Yeah, it was kind of hokey. I thought it was interesting in being used to find the Joker, but keeping it around after that didn’t make much sense to me. Why was the outside all blue and sonary? Was it also displayed on the inside? It was kind of confusing and not really necessary.
  6. Blaming Batman. If they could get away with blaming Batman for Dent’s crimes, why couldn’t they just blame the Joker or just not blame anyone at all? It would have been alot easier AND it would have made more sense.

Overall, these aren’t too bad. I can definitely live with them. The move was great and I look forward to seeing where they take it from here although I do wonder who they’re going to get as a villain. I wasn’t able to see it in IMAX the first time but I plan on seeing it again soon and will definitely catch it in IMAX this time. Just in case you think I really hate this movie - I think this will be the first time I’ve EVER seen a movie in the theater twice (other than dollar theaters). I mean, most movies I never even go see in the theater to begin with.

Anyways, were there any things that bugged you about the movie?

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  • noah
    July 24th, 2008 at 9:24 am

    I also had a problem with the way people acted on the ferrys. It was strange to me that the guys with the detonators weren’t mobbed immediately. But then the Joker would have won, so…
    I can look back now and see the plot holes, but the movie was moving too fast to care about them during. Great movie.

  • Ryan Abreu
    July 24th, 2008 at 10:16 am

    I loved this movie to death, but I can also agree with most of your points. I didn’t even notice until the second time I saw it that they never mentioned what happened after Batman jumped out the window to save Rachel. I will definitely see this movie at least one more time — this time, in IMAX.

  • Yogesh
    July 26th, 2008 at 1:19 am

    I agree with your points, specially the last one. I really found it to be STUPID to blame Batman. Batman goes the vigilante way and is also considered a criminal by law in comics and previous adaptations and Nolan had to show him this way to make way for the third installment. But I found the reason to be very stupid indeed. They could have blamed anyone in the world. There are 100’s of mob bosses including Maroni. There was Joker. Atleast they should have shown some good reason to blame Batman before issuing the “Manhunt”.

  • Yogesh
    July 26th, 2008 at 1:20 am

    BTW: I forgot to add one thing…

    I absolutely loved this movie. Watched it three times already. And now looking to view it for a forth time, this time in a IMAX. :)

  • Mike Gromer
    July 26th, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    The voice was freaking ANNOYING. Same with all the copycat Batmans. Other than that, pretty awesome movie.

  • Thomas Holloway
    July 27th, 2008 at 2:03 am

    I think a better way to look at the movie than to debate the aesthetics is to take a look at some of the more psychological points not only themed in this movie but throughout Batman. Here’s a few:

    Batman’s Principles, Fear and Control

    Batman being not a hero, but a man who experienced a tragedy and making choices to do something about it.

    There are so many people who take tragedy and completely lose it, move into despair or commit things they really wouldn’t of done. We can certainly see that in all the Batman Villians.

    I think it teaches us that we can pursue justice in an unjust world. That we can make choices to do what is right in an world pressuring people to do more than is necessary.

    I think this is important in a technology driven economy. Software is typically a field of overworked and “replacable” talent and it’s important to stand up for decisions that occur in day to day work environments.

  • Ryan Abreu
    July 28th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    Some people just want to watch the world burn.

  • Toast
    July 29th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Two Faces face kept reminding me of Terminator. the ‘realism’ of it never got to me, I mean it was a lot better then the other movie adaption of it and the comic doesn’t exactly stress realism either.

    Batmans voice did annoy me, but my guess is thats how he keeps his identity secret :\ However since he doesn’t talk often, it never took me away from the movie.

    I didn’t mind the end and blaming batman is what the movie was pushing towards the entire time. Blaming the Joker would have been a cop out way of doing things and would have broken that ‘moral code’ that is often considered Batmans ’super power.’ The only thing batman could do, in his eyes(as my interpenetration of them :p) was to take the fall.

    However, I have to echo what pretty much the entire world is saying and that is this was an amazing movie. I’d have to put Iron Man slightly ahead just because I really enjoyed the sarcasm of it. Both were great and I’ll look forward to the sequel for both.

    Also, anyone looking forward to The Watchman? The trailer looked pretty interesting, but I don’t know anything about it really.

  • 2%
    July 31st, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    1) Two-Face’s disfigurement didn’t bother me. I was curious to see how realistic or comic-like they would attempt to make it, and I think they struck a fairly good balance. The style was effectively gross, but nothing too revolting. Plus, Aaron Eckhart played the role quite well, and the creation of the villain out of the White Knight was deftly executed.

    2) Batman’s sandpaper throat never bothered me.

    3) Agreed on the Joker-in-the-penthouse loose end. It was a lengthy movie with constant pseudo-climaxing, but that’s not much of an excuse to leave out something as important as that.

    In reference to the second part of the third point: I prefer to avoid comparing and judging the physical limitations of superheroes all-together. Too often that leads to fanboy debates of whether hero X would be able to beat the snot out of hero Y, or vice versa. So, in this case, I’ll just take the movie’s word for it and guess Batman’s cape slowed their fall and allowed Rachel to live another half hour. =P

    4 and 5) Indeed.

    6) I read an article (which I can’t seem to relocate) about the mythology of Batman and what sinks or floats Batman movie sequels. It was an extremely good read if you’re that interested in comic book mythology, and it did a damn good job of comparing past Batman films (and why they failed) to Nolan’s darker, more mature take on the evolution of the bat (and why his movies are doing so well). In short, after reading that article, I agree with what Toasty said above.

    And now, for Watchmen…

    I had never heard about Watchmen before seeing the trailer either, but it had me instantly hooked. I went home and did some research (and continued my research at work *cough*), and have been educating myself on the graphic novel as much as possible without actually reading it. This is a very interesting read, analyzing scene-by-scene the theatrical trailer:

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/comic_con_2008/news/1743960/watching_the_watchmen_trailer_a_detailed_analysis

    Anyway, now I’m waiting for a nearby bookstore to get the Watchmen graphic novel back in stock. Apparently DC wasn’t anticipating a sudden surge of interest in the literature. -_-’

  • ryan
    July 31st, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    I bet most comic stores would have it in stock - or you could try amazon - they have it for about 40% off the list price. I mentioned it and some other graphic novels in Getting Graphic (http://neude.net/2008/07/graphic-novels/).

    I thought the book was good but I wasn’t as “blown away” as I thought I might have been. I think that is mostly from having read it some 20 years after it was first released. I think it changed the industry somewhat but my experience has all been in that “changed” industry for the most part. It’s probably how some people feel when they see “Citizen Kane” and wonder what the big deal is - it’s not such a big deal seeing it so long after it was made and not having the context of what state the medium was in at the time.

    All in all though, it’s definitely a good read.

  • 2%
    July 31st, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    Well that certainly doesn’t hinder my high hopes for the graphic novel medium of Watchmen, seeing as I’m a fan of Citizen Kane. ^_^

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